{"id":4728,"date":"2023-07-04T10:25:33","date_gmt":"2023-07-04T14:25:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/?p=4728"},"modified":"2024-02-14T16:44:24","modified_gmt":"2024-02-14T20:44:24","slug":"connect-abortion-to-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/index.php\/2023\/07\/04\/connect-abortion-to-war\/","title":{"rendered":"Abortion Supporters Connect Abortion to War"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Compiled by Rachel MacNair. If you know of other good quotations that fit this theme, please send them to CLNeditors@googlegroups.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><strong><br \/>\nDr. Frank Behrend, M.D., abortion doctor<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>tape-recorded speech November 7, 1977<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Reference was made to my agreeing that abortion is taking a human life, which it is.\u00a0 However, let us remember that war is also legalized killing, that the pilot that dropped the atom bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima killed human life.\u00a0 He got medals for it.\u00a0 We bless our troops when they go into battle to kill human beings, so that the taking of human life, including the death penalty in certain states like Utah, where the man was shot, is not a strange behavior in a society.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Don Sloan, abortion doctor<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>From his book\u00a0<em>Choice: A Doctor\u2019s Experience with the Abortion Dilemma\u00a0<\/em>(second edition, 2002), p. 84<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Is abortion murder? All killing isn\u2019t murder.\u00a0 A cop shoots a teenager who \u201cappeared to be going for a gun,\u201d and we call it justifiable homicide \u2013 a tragedy for all concerned, but not murder . . . And then there\u2019s war. In theory, soldiers shoot only at each other. But in practice, lots and lots of other folks get killed.<\/p>\n<p>We drop bombs where there are non-combatants \u2013 women and children and old people \u2013 and when they die we call it not murder but \u201ccollateral damage.\u201d Our soldiers get killed by \u201cfriendly fire\u201d \u2013 often by people who aimed directly at them. Is that murder? All killing like that, to me, is morally wrong. But murder?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><strong>LeRoy Carhart, M.D, specialist in late-term abortions<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><em>CBS Evening News<\/em>, Dec. 4, 2009<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Blog-LeRoy-Cahart.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-4730\" src=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Blog-LeRoy-Cahart-300x153.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"367\" height=\"187\" srcset=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Blog-LeRoy-Cahart-300x153.jpg 300w, http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Blog-LeRoy-Cahart.jpg 510w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 367px) 100vw, 367px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I totally believe in this cause every bit as much as I did believe every morning when I got up in the military that I was doing the right thing.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3><strong>\u201cBetween Guilt and Gratification: Abortion Doctors Reveal Their Feelings\u201d by Norma Rosen<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><em>New York Times Magazine<\/em>\u00a0April 17, 1977 p 73, 74, 78<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Dr. William Rashbaum, veteran of thousands of abortions, had for years suffered during each removal a fantasy of the fetus resisting, hanging onto the uterus walls with its tiny fingernails, fighting to stay inside.<\/p>\n<p>How, he was asked, had he managed to perform abortions despite this fantasy?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLearned to live with it. Like people in concentration camps.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When asked if he really meant that metaphor:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s apt \u2013 destruction of life. Look! I\u2019m a person, I\u2019m entitled to my feelings. And my feelings are who gave me or anybody the right to terminate a pregnancy? . . . I don\u2019t get paid for my feelings. . . . I spent a lot of years learning to deliver babies. Sure, it sometimes hurts to end life instead of bringing it into the world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Blog-Ginette-Paris.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-4731\" src=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Blog-Ginette-Paris.jpg\" alt=\"Ginette Paris\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" \/><\/a>Ginette Paris<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><em>The Sacrament of Abortion,\u00a0<\/em>1992, 25-27<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Men have the right to kill and destroy, and when the massacre is called a war they are paid to do it and honored for their actions. War is sanctified, even blessed by our religious leaders. But let a woman decide to abort a fetus . . . and people are shocked. What\u2019s really shocking is that a woman has the power to make a moral judgment that involves a choice of life or death. That power has been reserved for men.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/blog-William-Saletan.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-4732\" src=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/blog-William-Saletan.jpg\" alt=\"William Saletan speaks\" width=\"220\" height=\"229\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h3><strong>William Saletan<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/id\/2219537\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Slate<\/em>\u00a0Magazine: June 1, 2009<\/a><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Tiller was the country\u2019s bravest or most ruthless abortion provider, depending on how you saw him . . . To me, Tiller was brave. His work makes me want to puke. But so does combat, the kind where guts are spilled and people choke on their own blood. I like to think I love my country and would fight for it. But I doubt I have the stomach to pull the trigger.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Warren M. Hern and Billie Corrigan<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.drhern.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/staff-reaction-de.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">What About Us?<\/a> Staff Reactions to the D &amp; E Procedure,\u201d <\/strong><\/h3>\n<h3><strong><em>Advances in Planned Parenthood<\/em>\u00a015(1):3-8, 1980<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Blog-Warren-Hern.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-4733\" src=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Blog-Warren-Hern.jpg\" alt=\"Dr. Warren Hern\" width=\"249\" height=\"204\" \/><\/a>Note: This is anther example\u00a0 human mind\u2019s reaction to doing violence, found across all the different kinds of violence<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Two respondents described dreams which they had related to the procedure. Both described dreams of vomiting fetuses along with a sense of horror. Other dreams revolved around a need to protect others from viewing fetal parts, dreaming that she herself was pregnant and needed an abortion or was having a baby. . . . In general, it appears that the more direct the physical and visual involvement (i.e. nurses, doctor), the more stress experienced. This is evident both in conscious stress and in unconscious manifestations such as dreams. At least, both individuals who reported several significant dreams were in these roles.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">============================================<\/p>\n<p><em>For more of our posts on connecting abortion and war, see:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/index.php\/2017\/07\/18\/war-causes-abortion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wars Cause Abortion<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/index.php\/2023\/05\/23\/war-hysteria\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">War Hysteria and Post-Dobbs Reactions<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>For a similar idea going in a different directions, see:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/index.php\/2019\/04\/16\/linking-abortion-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">When Linking Abortion with Other Violence Comes Naturally to Pro-lifers \u2013 Part 1: Connections Show Importance<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/index.php\/2019\/04\/23\/linking-abortion-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">When Linking Abortion with Other Violence Comes Naturally to Pro-lifers \u2013 Part 2: Consistency Strengthens the Case<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<form action=\"https:\/\/oi.vresp.com?fid=1c608dcc6e\" method=\"post\" target=\"vr_optin_popup\">\n<div style=\"font-family: verdana; font-size: 11px; width: 160px; padding: 10px; border: 1px solid #405095; background: #dddddd;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #405095;\">Get our SHORT Biweekly e-Newsletter<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><label style=\"color: #405095;\">Email Address:<\/label><br \/>\n<input style=\"margin-top: 5px; border: 1px solid #999; padding: 3px;\" name=\"email_address\" size=\"15\" type=\"text\" \/><br \/>\n<input style=\"margin-top: 5px; border: 1px solid #999; padding: 3px;\" type=\"submit\" value=\"Get Newsletter\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #405095;\">Email &amp; Social Media Marketing by <a title=\"Email &amp; Social Media Marketing by VerticalResponse\" href=\"http:\/\/www.verticalresponse.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">VerticalResponse<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<\/form>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Compiled by Rachel MacNair. 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