{"id":4359,"date":"2022-11-29T12:10:41","date_gmt":"2022-11-29T16:10:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/?p=4359"},"modified":"2024-02-16T11:58:15","modified_gmt":"2024-02-16T15:58:15","slug":"miscarriage-and-abortion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/index.php\/2022\/11\/29\/miscarriage-and-abortion\/","title":{"rendered":"Asking Questions about Miscarriage and Abortion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>by Ms. Boomer-ang<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>While on a vacation in New York&#8217;s Adirondacks in September 2018, I ran into a family that included two gospel singers,\u00a0a mother and a daughter.\u00a0 One day we ended up hiking together.<\/p>\n<p>During the hike, the daughter said, &#8220;I have a little sister in heaven.\u00a0That&#8217;s neat!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The mother told her story:\u00a0She had had an early miscarriage, and the doctor had sped it up surgically.\u00a0I wondered if there was a chance that the fetus was still alive when the operation started.<\/p>\n<p>Within the medical profession, the technical term for a miscarriage is a \u201cspontaneous abortion.\u201d Such an event is obviously very different from what doctors call an \u201cinduced abortion\u201d\u2014in other words, what we conventionally call \u201can abortion.\u201d However, the similar language used raised questions for me about how doctors might be responding to women with medically complicated pregnancies.<\/p>\n<p>When women are told they are going to miscarry and then rushed into a procedure to complete the miscarriage efficiently, how likely is it in these cases that the fetus was still alive when the procedure began?\u00a0How likely was the woman herself to have survived without the procedure? What chance did the pregnancy have of continuing until the live birth of a viable baby, with the mother surviving too?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/miscarriage-medical-instruments.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-4361\" src=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/miscarriage-medical-instruments.jpg\" alt=\"Miscarriage and Abortion Medical Instruments\" width=\"493\" height=\"329\" srcset=\"https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/miscarriage-medical-instruments.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/miscarriage-medical-instruments-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/miscarriage-medical-instruments-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/miscarriage-medical-instruments-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 493px) 100vw, 493px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Sometime between 1995 and 2010, a woman wrote in the <em>Washington Post <\/em>that she had signs of trouble in the first trimester of her pregnancy.\u00a0The doctor told her she was miscarrying.\u00a0She could wait and see if her body expelled the fetus naturally or have it taken out immediately by surgery.\u00a0So the woman agreed to surgery.\u00a0This meant going to an abortion facility and having the same procedure as an abortion.<\/p>\n<p>Since apparently she did not oppose abortion, she did not mind doing that.\u00a0She said one or two other women there at the same time were also there to complete miscarriages.\u00a0But she noted that she was the only woman in the recovery room not crying.<\/p>\n<p>The <em>New York<\/em> <em>Times<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2022\/09\/10\/us\/abortion-bans-medical-care-women.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reported<\/a> this September that when pregnant women come to doctors with &#8220;miscarriages or hemorrhaging,&#8221; abortion is the established standard care.\u00a0 It quotes Dr. Alison Haddock attacking the prospect of restrictions on abortions with, &#8220;Do we wait until the fetus is definitely dead?&#8230;[H]ow much bleeding is too much?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That made me wonder if in many, if not most, cases where women are rushed into &#8220;miscarriage completing&#8221; procedures, the fetus is still or probably still alive.\u00a0In some cases, could the pregnancy have been continued, without endangering the mother?<\/p>\n<p>Surgery may be necessary in ectopic pregnancy, but what about other types of situations?<\/p>\n<p>If a woman is suffering life-threatening hemorrhaging, then the bleeding must be stopped in any way possible, but does removing the fetus\u2014which may require cutting\u2014really ease the bleeding?<\/p>\n<p>I am not a doctor, so I am not certain. However, with a medical culture that both wants natural processes sped up and values abortion, how much bleeding are doctors\u2014even pro-life ones\u2014now trained to regard as too much?<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, when the fetus <em>is<\/em>\u00a0dying or becoming detached and cannot be saved, making the mother &#8220;complete&#8221; the miscarriage immediately through a surgical abortion has similarities to killing patients because they are terminally ill and to regarding the dying as already dead.<\/p>\n<p>Are there cases where the doctor does not want to know if the fetus is alive? In many cases, is it an instance of not wanting to &#8220;reduce efficiency&#8221; by taking a step considered extraneous? In others, is distinguishing between the dying, the possibly dying, and the dead considered too nitpicky?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/1-blog-miscarriage-and-abortion.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-4362 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/1-blog-miscarriage-and-abortion.jpg\" alt=\"Miscarriage and Abortion Pregnant Woman\" width=\"401\" height=\"380\" srcset=\"https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/1-blog-miscarriage-and-abortion.jpg 401w, https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/1-blog-miscarriage-and-abortion-300x284.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 401px) 100vw, 401px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Doctors should be better trained in handling a pregnancy with complications to ensure the survival of both mother and baby.\u00a0Have doctors forgotten\u00a0how, when encountering possible miscarriage symptoms, to save both mother and baby?\u00a0Are younger doctors taught that is impossible?\u00a0In order to learn how to save the life of both the mother and the baby, will doctors have to get training in countries where abortion is still illegal?<\/p>\n<p>And women should definitely be told if there is a chance that the fetus is still alive before being rushed into &#8220;miscarriage completion.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">===========================<\/p>\n<p><em>For more of our posts on similar topics, see:\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/index.php\/2020\/08\/11\/tear-gas-and-miscarriages\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tear Gas and Miscarriages<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/index.php\/2022\/08\/30\/embryo-important-woman\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Is an Embryo More Important than a Woman?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>For more of our posts by &#8220;Ms. Boomer-ang&#8221; (pen name), see:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/index.php\/2021\/09\/21\/shut-up-and-enjoy-it\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u201cShut Up and Enjoy it!\u201d: Abortion Promoters who Sexually Pressure Women<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/consistent-life.org\/blog\/index.php\/2019\/12\/03\/political-homelessness\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Political Homelessness is Better than a Wrong Political Home<\/a><\/p>\n<form action=\"https:\/\/oi.vresp.com?fid=1c608dcc6e\" method=\"post\" target=\"vr_optin_popup\">\n<div style=\"font-family: verdana; font-size: 11px; width: 160px; padding: 10px; border: 1px solid #405095; background: #dddddd;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #405095;\">Get our SHORT Biweekly e-Newsletter<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><label style=\"color: #405095;\">Email Address:<\/label><br \/>\n<input style=\"margin-top: 5px; border: 1px solid #999; padding: 3px;\" name=\"email_address\" size=\"15\" type=\"text\" \/><br \/>\n<input style=\"margin-top: 5px; border: 1px solid #999; padding: 3px;\" type=\"submit\" value=\"Get Newsletter\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #405095;\">Email &amp; Social Media Marketing by <a title=\"Email &amp; Social Media Marketing by VerticalResponse\" href=\"http:\/\/www.verticalresponse.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">VerticalResponse<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<\/form>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Ms. Boomer-ang &nbsp; While on a vacation in New York&#8217;s Adirondacks in September 2018, I ran into a family that included two gospel singers,\u00a0a mother and a daughter.\u00a0 One day we ended up hiking together. 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